5 Cylinder?
Did I read right? The new vehicles are going to have 5 Cylinders? Audi isn’t digging up the old five cylinder that they had such trouble with, are they? They really are getting desperate. They probably had the tooling stored away in the corner somewhere and decided to drag it out.
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297 Said,
January 28, 2005 @ 1:08 am
5 Cylinder? – The engine is around four years old, they cut it in half and changed some of the plumbing, but the block is solid.
Naysaying from the get go, are we?
And don’t let’s continue this whole three year thing in this thread. It’s enough as it is.
VWVictim Said,
January 28, 2005 @ 1:43 am
5 Cylinder? – Naysaying from past and present experience. Both mine and tens of thousands of others experience. And I am only reiterating your theory that it is a good idea to wait three years after the introduction of a new model. I suggested at least one year, but I think your suggestion of three years is better.
297 Said,
January 28, 2005 @ 3:36 am
5 Cylinder? – Fair enough.
I’m not too interested in the I-5 — it looks solid, but the 2.0T FSI is more interesting, from a technological standpoint.
Like I said in another thread, the only bits I like about the new MkV are the engines, the transmission, and the suspension.
Everything else? Nope. If I were buying a new car this year, and if I ignored my three year rule, I’d look into:
Sedan: Infiniti G35
Coupe: Mazda RX-8
Wagon: Volvo V50 T5 AWD
All of these are $28-35k vehicles, which indicates a certain refinement in my present age.
(I kid, I kid)
But check it out, I like the Volvo’s tubrocharged inline 5-cylinder!
297 Said,
January 28, 2005 @ 10:42 am
5 Cylinder? – No, it’s a new one. It’s a derivation of one of the banks in the Lamborghini Gallardo’s V-10 engine.
VW admits to detuning the engine for this base engine (150hp, 168 ft.lb.), which means they plan to sell premium sports packages in much the same vein as Infiniti has with the G35 engine (just how many tuning variants does that thing have!?).
Considering the Gallardo can hit 500 hp on it’s V-10, it’s not inconceivable the VW inline-5 can hit 200 hp with tuning alone. A turbocharger would make things more interesting.
They probably won’t though, since the 2.0T 4-cylinder FSI is the more appropriate performance model.
297 Said,
January 28, 2005 @ 10:47 am
5 Cylinder? – On a side note: chip tuners will have a field day if they manage to develop a fuel map for the new 2.5L I-5 that can bump it 50hp with just software.
VWVictim Said,
January 28, 2005 @ 11:19 am
5 Cylinder? – So they are putting a newly developed engine into a newly developed platform? Scary. People should definately give it three years.
Syncro Said,
January 29, 2005 @ 8:59 am
5 Cylinder? – Uhhh.. that would be the VW/Audi 5 cylinder that routinely goes 250K without any problems? That engine is as close to bulletproof as any I’ve seen. It’s just a VW 1.8l four cylinder with an extra cylinder, anyway.
Speak to the folks on the Audifans or Syncronized groups, or someone else who’s actually driven a car with one of these five cylinders, rather than just displaying your ignorance, why don’t you?
VWVictim Said,
January 30, 2005 @ 1:26 am
5 Cylinder? – Regularly goes 250K? Must drive it 24 hours a day. I thought this was a new engine? Half of a Lamborgini engine with new plumbing?
Synchro with 1 Post? Amazing how you show up. Doing good cop, bad cop with Paul?
VWVictim Said,
January 30, 2005 @ 1:35 am
5 Cylinder? – If it is just the 1.8t with an extra cylinder does it also have the sludge problem?
Syncro Said,
January 30, 2005 @ 11:38 am
5 Cylinder? – Read VWVictim’s original post: he mentioned Audi “”digging up the old five cylinder that they had so much trouble with.”" I was disputing his statement that that engine had problems. I’ve owned several cars with this engine, mostly VW’s, and never had any problems. The original VW/Audi five cylinder was created by taking the old 1.8, which also was completely bulletproof, and adding a cylinder. This was back in the days when VW actually had decent build quality and their engines didn’t sludge up.
I’ve run two of these engines well beyond 250K with nothing but routine maintenance. I just bought a “”new”" Syncro (an 86) with 163K, and I didn’t even hesitate, because that’s just getting broken in for that motor.
297 Said,
January 31, 2005 @ 1:44 am
5 Cylinder? – Sludge problem has more to do with the plumbing and tuning than the engine block.
The 1.8T block is pretty indestructible (considering you can bring it to 400hp using 91/93 octane as a daily driver).
Don’t know about the new 2.5L 5-cylinder and the new 2.0T FSI — we’ll see.