I don’t want to rub it in….but…..
My new Scion TC has been close to perfect (just an occasional slight cold start stumble until the car warms up) these past two months. Not a thing has gone wrong with the car after close to 4 thousand miles of driving fun fun fun! Now I know what all the VW fans mean when they insist that VWs puts grins in people’s faces when you drive them. Funny thing was, I rarely felt that with my Passat VR6 GLX and the numerous Jetta and Passat models that VW has loaned and rented to me whenever my Passat was dead in the dealer’s service department with yet another major breakdown.
The Scion is just getting smoother and quicker as it breaks in. It’s also so nice when I get constant praise from people on the streets and parking lot on how great the car looks. Just today, I think I convinced two people to buy the TC.
No, it does not have 200+ horsepower, and will most likely be left in the dust by most “”serious”" sportcars, but heck! based on my experience on the TC so far, this IS the best 17K you could spend on a car these days. Anyway, I have already blown away quite a few sporty cars on the road with the TC’s very good roll-on acceleration, because of the engine’s high torque characteristics. (A4’s, RSXs, TSXs, BMW 3s, a few 5’s and just today, an RX8). The TC just squirted away easily from these cars between freeway traffic gaps. The TC handles so well that it can actually oversteer like a rear wheel drive car if pushed hard enough in turns. There’s none of the typical, nose-heavy understeer that more expensive FWD cars like the Audi A4 has.
From what I have heard about older, more reliable and reasonably priced sporty (GTIs) VW models, the TC is the type of car that VW has forgotten how to build for it’s customers. Fun, well built, fast and cheap!
Scion has just announced that if the sales trend for this year keeps going, they could easily sell over 140,000 units in 2005 in the US! How’s that for proof that Scions are tremendously satisfying their owners and the word of mouth is quickly spreading!
Please watch and learn VW!!!! before it’s too late!!!!
I think that this will most likely be my last post on this site. My new car experience outside of VW has definitely made my point about how VW has to work on their quality control and their basic design philosophy that they use on their cars. Quit making your cars uneccesarily complicated VW! It only makes the probability of systems breakdown much more higher than other brands and makes the cars more expensive to fix. The headlong dive into the luxury market with the Touareg, Pheaton and the W8 has just been a total waste of money and resources that VW should have just used to improve their more “”regular”" priced cars. The new VW Jetta MkV seems to be now lost in it’s higher price point and lots of Jetta fans feel that VW has turned it’s back on them because owning a Jetta is becoming unaffordable. How a Jetta could cost over 30K is just ridiculous. VW should just let Audi take care of the more expensive market sector.
So goodbye to all, including our pals like Jasenm who I hope will eventually take their blinders off and finally see the light about VWs big problems and finally agree that something has to be done to save the company very soon.
Thank you very much too Rick and Paul for providing us with this very informative site.
Chombi
The guy with the big grin in the 2005 Flint Mica Scion TC, speeding away into the Bay Area sunsets!
Post edited 06/25/05 8:04 AM by Chombi
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you_moron Said,
June 25, 2005 @ 8:22 am
Great – Well, I’m glad your satisfied with your purchase. But, I haven’t heard of a brand new VW breaking down in 4k miles. Maybe around 35kish. So come back in 3 years when you have about that.
297 Said,
June 27, 2005 @ 11:41 am
I don’t want to rub it in….but….. – Don’t be a stranger. Drop in from time to time and be the wise, experienced sage rocking his chair with not a care in the world.
formerAuditech Said,
June 28, 2005 @ 10:22 am
achtung moron……. – really, reading, it shouldn’t be this hard……didn’t you read the thread about how his brand spanking new passat left him walking at around 1,000 miles, (or was it less than that Chombi?). and about how many times it left him stranded? and how much time it spent at the dealer?
and 35K? dude, seriously, go back and re-read all the threads again. there are many many problems with others cars with way less miles than that.
thanks for the scion update, i have been thinking about an XB to haul my dj gear, as i have liked them since they have first come out.
you_moron Said,
June 29, 2005 @ 2:19 am
ok……. – “”a well maintained toyota product will do 100k easy”"
a well maintained VW product makes 100k easily. Nuff said.
I don’t like the VW thing or VW Bus either. I’m not a big fan of square cars. Rounder is safer anyway.
formerAuditech Said,
June 29, 2005 @ 5:11 am
true…… – yes a well maintained VW product will do 100k easy, hell my friend’s 1.8t is living proof…..just that he had to pay more than four times as much to do it….
thanks for playing, come back anytime.
you_moron Said,
June 29, 2005 @ 7:37 am
I don’t want to rub it in….but….. – sure ill play any time and win. WOW u know of 1 car didnt work perfectly and he had to pay “4x” the amount. life sucks for that guy i guess. hate to be him.
you_moron Said,
June 29, 2005 @ 10:41 am
bet – I’m willing to put money on it. Within a 35k miles, he’ll have a break down. Oh, and btw, the xB is disgusting looking. Just like the Honda Element, its a box on wheels.
297 Said,
June 29, 2005 @ 11:40 am
I don’t want to rub it in….but….. – I like the xB. And I dig the Element, too. Being a box on wheels does not necessarily mean it’s a bad thing. The VW Bus and VW Thing are both very much part of the box on wheels philosophy.
formerAuditech Said,
June 29, 2005 @ 12:29 pm
alright then….. – compaired to how many he had with his passat when it reached the same amount of miles his Scion has now, one would be small in compairsion.
a well maintained toyota product will do 100k easy…..and yes perhaps something will crap out along the way, a fuel pump or the like…..but my mom’s toyota pick up has logged well over 100k and only had to come in on the hook twice in its life (and yes once was for a fuel pump)….not to mention my friend, his father, a couple of my neighbors, two family friends, my parts guy, and a couple of co-workers that i know of that all have toyota pick ups with well over 100k on them and still going strong……..
i know of one person with a 1.8t with a 100k on it, just one…….and he has had to rebuild his top end, replace his turbo, replace his ecu, engine wiring, among many other items……and actually it isn’t running right now as a matter of fact (forget what the new issue of the week is this time)…..
seriously, go find some facts, because you are just continuing to spout off non-sense…..case in point that part about vw making bmw and benz motors, that had me laughing……..hell even jase has agreed with me over some issues, so i must be doing something write….(thru that in there for you jase, cause i know you like to correct me from time to time
and paul is completely correct, hell if you look at the sketches ben pon made of what was to become the vw bus, it was way box-ier than the production models…..and hell they touted it because it would haul more than the wagons of the day…….exactly the reasoning behind why i would want a XB to haul my gear.
Post edited 06/29/05 12:31 PM by formerAuditech
Post edited 06/29/05 12:32 PM by formerAuditech
twengl Said,
June 30, 2005 @ 11:57 am
i love my tundra… – easily?
my ‘99 golf made it to 100k- though it was practically pushed. all the dealer visits and oil changes and service in the world wouldn’t have prevented the slew of problems i had with it- window regulators, timing belt tensioner, electronic door locks…the list goes on and on.
VW sales are dropping like a stone. everyone i know who owns one built in the last 7-8 years hates it. i hardly see any new ones on the road. VW’s plight is not the result of negligence by VW owners- it’s because the cars are shamefully unreliable. the numbers don’t lie.
you_moron Said,
July 1, 2005 @ 7:10 am
I don’t want to rub it in….but….. – i dont know where u live, but in the past year I see more VW’s then any car here.(besides BMW).
I live in Doylestown PA. Yea, its upscale but people drive VWs. Lots of R32’s, tons of Jetta’s. Not to many Passats and a handfull of Golfs. Most are 2001+ cept the souped up Golfs the young kids drive.