VW Oil Sludge Petition

VW Oil Sludge Petition

Sign the petition to send to VW!

October 15, 2005 · Filed under Uncategorized

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  1. thomas_mck Said,

    October 31, 2005 @ 8:34 am

    Well, well – In just a couple of weeks it’s up to 24 signatures. All signatures of people SCREWED OVER BY VOLKSWAGON!

    Not only that, it’s hitting from Google now and it will grow even more as people hear the bad news from their dealership and go home to research……

    Let’s hope this truly evil company, out to screw honest customers, gets their due soon.

  2. thomas_mck Said,

    November 8, 2005 @ 10:48 am

    42 and counting – 42 signatures and counting…..

  3. thomas_mck Said,

    November 27, 2005 @ 7:52 am

    65+ and counting – 65+ and counting…..

  4. DDW12Phaeton Said,

    December 3, 2005 @ 3:04 am

    76 Signatures!!! – Wow! You guys seem to have quite the movement going on here.

  5. DDW12Phaeton Said,

    December 3, 2005 @ 3:14 am

    77 Signatures!!!!! – OK, with that many signatures VW will drop what they are doing and change their policies. Way to go!

  6. GTI1.8T=amazing Said,

    December 3, 2005 @ 3:18 am

    petition – your petition is about as pointless as it would be to buy any other car then VW

  7. GTI1.8T=amazing Said,

    December 3, 2005 @ 3:19 am

    petition continued – DUMBASSES

  8. thomas_mck Said,

    December 3, 2005 @ 4:04 am

    Pointless – What a pointless idiot this guy obviously is. Must be unemployed, single and a complete loser to post such drivel.

  9. DDW12Phaeton Said,

    December 3, 2005 @ 5:24 am

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – Actually he has a really hot girlfriend and is employed

  10. DDW12Phaeton Said,

    December 4, 2005 @ 2:30 am

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – It is the weekend so he would not be at work. As far as posting “rubbish” on the internet. Ha. Kind of like what you are doing.

  11. DDW12Phaeton Said,

    December 4, 2005 @ 2:31 am

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – Oh and by the way. He does not work for Volkswagen, so his mentality has nothing to do with VW’s sales figures.

  12. VWVictim Said,

    December 4, 2005 @ 3:40 am

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – Actually, Thomas, he perfectly represents the VAG and VWoA mentality.
    And they wonder why their sales continue to plummet.

  13. thomas_mck Said,

    December 4, 2005 @ 9:00 am

    Yeah…but – “”Actually he has a really hot girlfriend and is employed”"

    Yeah, but, that’s his sister…..

    And his job sucks so bad he spends all day on the internet posting rubbish.

  14. 297 Said,

    December 5, 2005 @ 3:19 am

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – “derisive speech for the sake of being offensive is not welcomed here”

  15. DDW12Phaeton Said,

    December 5, 2005 @ 11:31 am

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – Now I would hope that comment is not directed at me. Because I can show you examples of derisive speech aimed to me. Thank you

  16. thomas_mck Said,

    December 6, 2005 @ 12:30 pm

    Herein lies the problem – Herein lies the problem with the ‘VW enthusiasts’. They basically say ‘we didn’t have a problem with our car, so you shouldn’t either’. This TOTALLY ignores the fact that thousands of people have ruined car engines because of a faulty design at VW and this company is fighting them tooth and nail, every step of the way. The petition alone has around 60 people with ruined cars or pocketbooks because of this company design flaw.

    VW can do what Toyota did, admit the problem, recall and fix it, and move on to brighter days….but do they??

  17. thomas_mck Said,

    December 7, 2005 @ 10:20 am

    81 and counting – 81 and counting…..

  18. 297 Said,

    December 8, 2005 @ 2:56 am

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – I see you’re still ignoring the policies of the site. Watch it, thomas. That last sentence was better left unwritten.

    And while you’re at it, you can go ahead and educate us on what you know about the two policies, their similarities and differences, rather than giving us a statement that helps no one.

  19. thomas_mck Said,

    December 8, 2005 @ 3:25 am

    Great – I’d say that anybody who knows what VW isn’t doing for its customers in regards to the oil sludge problem and what Toyota IS doing, already knows the difference between the two.

    Buy a 2003 Passat, drive it for a year or two. When you are broken down on the side of the road three or four times, you’ll know first hand the difference between the two. I don’t think me copying and pasting two completely different policies here adds to any discussion whatsoever.

    However, read the peoples stories on the petition and you can get a real clear picture of what’s not being done.

  20. jorgab Said,

    December 8, 2005 @ 4:17 am

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – both policies state coverage for 8 years. both policies state you must have reciepts that show oil changes have been performed at the suggestede intervals. both policies do allow for owners that are not the orignal buyers to also be protected, again providing you have changed oil accordingly. for some one that has been able to provide me with the needed, reciepts i have never denied them coverage for repairs. i have denied people that have gone 10000 miles between changes. i know a few people that work at our toyota dealership. they tell me that they are just as strict regarding oil change reciepts. if not stricter.

  21. thomas_mck Said,

    December 8, 2005 @ 5:22 am

    Hmmmm – So, are you just ignoring this passage, or just in denial about it?

    “”Toyota’s new policy is a dramatic change from a so-called Special Policy Adjustment begun in February. Amid increasing criticism for refusing to deal with the problem, Toyota notified 3.3 million owners of the affected engines that sludge-related repairs would be covered for one year, as long as they proved the oil had been changed at least once in the previous year.”"

    Since when did VW allow just one receipt for the whole year to qualify??????

  22. thomas_mck Said,

    December 8, 2005 @ 5:26 am

    And also…. – And also, when did VW stop blaiming us for this problem?

    George Peterson, president of AutoPacific, a consulting firm in Tustin, Calif., said Toyota is doing the smart thing by no longer holding customers responsible for the problem.

    “”The best way for a company to respond to any issue like this is not to point a finger and say, it’s your fault or my fault, but to just fix it,”" he said.

  23. jorgab Said,

    December 8, 2005 @ 11:03 am

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – um toyota did not issue a recall either. there policy regarding sludge in the 3.0 v6 is the same as vw’s. the only difference with vw is they extended it to 8 years unlimited miles. toyota did not do that

  24. thomas_mck Said,

    December 8, 2005 @ 12:12 pm

    Ummm – Toyota policy

    You are saying this is the same policy as VW????

  25. 297 Said,

    December 8, 2005 @ 12:29 pm

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – Looks like it to me. Toyota and VW both extended oil sludge repairs on affected vehicles, but both received complaints:

    But there are about 100 entries in the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration’s Consumer Complaints database from Toyota and Lexus owners who say they they were not reimbursed. Many complainants say they could prove with receipts that they followed proper maintenance procedures, but were told the sludge problem was caused by abuse and wouldn’t be covered.

    Sounds like a familiar story to me.

  26. thomas_mck Said,

    December 8, 2005 @ 12:44 pm

    Well then. – Well then, you know absolutely nothing about the issue then.

    Learn more then come back and run your mouth.

  27. Beck Said,

    December 9, 2005 @ 4:38 am

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – Shoot!, I didn’t know that Beetles aren’t VWs anymore!??!! Who builds them now?..uhhhh…Fiat????

  28. 297 Said,

    December 9, 2005 @ 4:57 am

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – With regard to the Beetle… no one builds them anymore. The last rolled off the production line a few years ago. As to your comment, you are making a rather large assumption.

    And as Beetles being VWs, yes. But not all VWs are Beetles (or New Beetles). There is no one-to-one relationship, as you implied.

  29. 297 Said,

    December 9, 2005 @ 10:06 am

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – This is an oil sludge and warranty overview as of August 2005, three years since that report: Sludge: Jumping through hoops to make a case

    So Toyota wants evidence of one oil change a year and VW wants all oil changes to required spec. Saab wants to perform their own inspection, and Chrysler doesn’t even have an extended warranty.

    So, if VW’s policy is a little better than Saab’s and much better than Chrysler, but a little worse than Toyota, this automatically makes VW out to get the customer? What about Saab and Chrysler, since we’re bringing in other companies to compare?

    Toyota also has a lot more customers, meaning more complaints, meaning increased action on the part of Toyota. I’m not excusing any of these companies, but the fact of the matter is that VW is responding much better for a company that sells less than 500,000 units of the long. 1.8T engined car than Chrysler, which sells more units of an oil sludge prone vehicle but has no extended warranty.

    So, great, Thomas, you win. Toyota’s warranty is better. You win by a nose.

    Now how does that solve your problem?

  30. DDW12Phaeton Said,

    December 9, 2005 @ 10:11 am

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – OK Thomas. I think Paul understands this is a VW sucks website. He’s rattled me a few times.

  31. thomas_mck Said,

    December 9, 2005 @ 12:30 pm

    Why don’t you tell me – You’re the VW fan, you tell me.

    In case you forgot, this site is VWSUCKS.COM, which I continually keep proving to you VW fans.

  32. 297 Said,

    December 9, 2005 @ 12:57 pm

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – I shall, even though I am not a VW fan (remember, I’m a Beetle fan, and as I predicted a year ago, the next car we purchased was a Volvo T-5 wagon).

    Have you filed with the BBB? Reported to Consumer Affairs, Consumer Reports? All other similar organizations? Have you attempted to contact VWoA themselves, by letter or phone, with your grievance? I know you have an e-petition, but to be honest it’s not going to be enough, and not with how long it will take to collect enough signatures, to convince VW to do anything anytime soon, especially since part of your petition is in error since the Jetta does not suffer this problem. What about your class action lawsuit investigation with the lawyer? Where’d that go? We’d like to hear how things are going, not how things have gone — over and over and over again. Even VWVictim’s incessant doomsaying is interesting as he updates it every financial quarter.

    And no, I did not forget the name of this site. It’d be hard for me to, for obvious reasons.

    Post edited 12/09/05 1:17 PM by paultakeda

  33. thomas_mck Said,

    December 14, 2005 @ 3:48 am

    89… – 89 and counting….

  34. thomas_mck Said,

    December 20, 2005 @ 9:51 am

    Almost 100! – VW Sludge!

    Almost 100 now, in just a few months. VW needs to take heed of this!

  35. thomas_mck Said,

    December 28, 2005 @ 5:01 am

    100! – 100 signatures of VW owners screwed over!

  36. terryd Said,

    December 29, 2005 @ 10:41 am

    oild sludge takes another #90 i guess – at 46k i have no engine left, the car has been in the dealership for 3 weeks now, all reciepts showing VIN number date of service and milage were given, lo’ and behold the rep is on vacation til the end of the year. at 40k another dealer told me that i had used inferior oil and if i had taken the time to let him do the oil changes none of this wouldve happend 500 dollars later, well guess what mr einstien service manager, my engine is locked up even after he put the almighty VW wrench on it. wish me luck people as i dont have 10k the dealer says a new engine will cost and if they dont warranty it, i am completely SCREWED.

    and to the guy who keeps running his mouth, if you dont have the 1.8l turbo from 98 to 2004 then just go away quitely, thank you

    Post edited 12/29/05 10:46 AM by terryd

  37. YupOldBull Said,

    December 30, 2005 @ 11:11 am

    Admire the spunk…..Just another viewpoint – I admire the spunk of thomas mck. He is the leader of a crusade.

    crusade ( P ) Pronunciation Key (kr-sd)
    n.
    often Crusade Any of the military expeditions undertaken by European Christians in the 11th, 12th, and 13th centuries to recover the Holy Land from the Muslims.
    A holy war undertaken with papal sanction.
    A vigorous concerted movement for a cause or against an abuse. See Synonyms at campaign.

    My 2.0 liter engine was crap.

    The 1.8t is crap also. You can’t run an engine like that with just 3.5 quarts of low grade oil. (I ask again….were they delivered “”new”" with 3.5 quarts of regular oil and small oil filters?)

    I fought my battle 3 years ago in district court. When it takes 14 months to sue….you don’t win.

    I went for the “”one on one”" interaction…..It costs “”them”" more that way.

  38. thomas_mck Said,

    January 17, 2006 @ 8:46 am

    128….. – 128 signatures and counting……

  39. thomas_mck Said,

    January 27, 2006 @ 11:19 am

    138….. – 138 screwed over VW customers……and counting………

  40. terryd Said,

    January 31, 2006 @ 2:51 am

    fyi… – Just to letyou all know they replaced my engine due to the oil sludge problem and replaced it free of charge, sure it took a month and a 1/2 but at least i got it back free of charge, the parts alone for the replacement were 6900.00 The good lord was watching me on this one. good luck to you all.
    Terry

  41. thomas_mck Said,

    February 5, 2006 @ 8:26 am

    149 – 149 signatures and counting…..

  42. Mike Troutman Said,

    March 10, 2006 @ 4:17 am

    VW Oil Sludge Petition – I am an attorney in KY and have filed suit for a client aginst VW of America on the engine sludge issue; I would like to know if there is any informaiton out there that would be helpfuto us. It looks like they are doing what they can to avoid honoring the written warranty. Let me know what excuse they used with you and others.

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